I once invited a radical leftist poet from Spain to Thanksgiving.
We got a ride to my mom's house out in the country with a gentleman she was seeing. The older gentleman was from Greece but had some connection to Turkey which we thought was odd because the two countries are notorious enemies.
He said when he moved to the U.S. it upset him that he wasn't addressed as Herr Professor. He said they did so in Europe why not here? He said doctors here are referred to as Dr. why not professors or engineers?
My friend and I looked at each other like wtf?
In conversation he remarked that if an innocent person were put in jail it was okay as long as it assured that no guilty persons went free.
Well, that was too much-
"Are you fucking kidding?! I don't think you understand how justice works in this country. A person is considered innocent until proven guilty. What, you just want to put in prison everyone suspected of a crime in order to make absolutely certain no guilty people remain free?
Things kinda went downhill from there.